The ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame is a race-oriented carbon frameset that offers excellent value, with a T47 threaded bottom bracket, UDH derailleur hanger, and UCI approval. Riders praise its agile, road-bike-like handling and quality finish, but note limitations such as 45mm tire clearance, a proprietary seatpost, and chainring size restrictions for 1x and 2x setups.
Pros
- UCI approved for gravel racing, ensuring safety and compliance.123
- T47 threaded bottom bracket for reliability and ease of maintenance.123
- Universal Derailleur Hanger (UDH) for easy replacement and compatibility with modern derailleurs.123
- Internal cable routing with split spacers and guide tubes for easy adjustment and clean look.12
- Compatible with mechanical, electronic, and wireless groupsets, as well as 1x or 2x chainsets.123
- Numerous mounting points for bottles, cargo, and mudguards, making it versatile for touring and bikepacking.124
- Custom paint option available at a reasonable price (£300 extra), with unique designs.1
- Good value for money compared to premium Western brands, with frameset prices around $899 or £717.134
- Responsive and agile ride feel, similar to a light road bike, comfortable at speed off-road.145
- Included accessories: headset, seatpost, compression plug, and Di2 battery mount.12
Cons
- Tire clearance limited to 45mm, which is narrow by modern gravel standards; some users fit up to 50-51mm with minimal clearance.124
- Proprietary D-shaped seatpost prevents dropper post installation and limits aftermarket options; zero-offset option became available later.145
- Chainring clearance issues: max 1x 42T officially (users fit up to 46T with zero-offset), and 2x setups with chainrings larger than 46T may require specific chainline or spacers.45
- Paint quality issues: minor overspray, thick paint near brake mounts and bottom bracket, and clear coat on custom paint scratched easily.12
- Inconsistent customer service experiences, including delays and lack of communication; some frames shipped without necessary headset parts.4
- No protective film on chainstay, bottom bracket, or down tube; some loose carbon fibers inside the frame.21
- Warranty return shipping is on the customer after 30 days; 2-year warranty with 30-day free collection.1
- Aggressive geometry with low stack may not suit all riders; some find it too race-oriented for comfortable city riding.63
Key Facts
- Frame weight varies by size and measurement: 1.06kg (size 56, The Cycle Workshop), 1,111g (size 54, Patrick Lino), 1.13kg (oz cycle), and ~1,007g painted (size 56, forum user).1324
- Fork weight: 490g (The Cycle Workshop), 450g (oz cycle), 455g uncut (Patrick Lino).123
- Seatpost weight: 358g (The Cycle Workshop), 156g (oz cycle), 171g (Patrick Lino).123
- Bottom bracket: T47 threaded, 86.5mm wide (Patrick Lino) or 85.5mm (forum); some users need 0.5mm spacers per side.34
- Maximum tire clearance: officially 45mm, but some users fit up to 50-51mm with minimal clearance (3-5mm).45
- Maximum 1x chainring: officially 42T, but users have fitted 44T and 46T with zero-offset chainrings and proper chainline.45
- Frame material: T700, T800, and T1000 carbon (The Cycle Workshop).1
- Price: $899 USD (Patrick Lino, The Cycle Workshop), £717 (The Cycle Workshop), or around €785 with discount (forum).314
Reviews & Ratings
09:02The reviewer introduces the ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame (referred to as 'Ghero' or 'Guerrero' in the transcript) as a new gravel project sent by ICAN. He highlights its aggressive geometry, UCI approval, tire clearance up to 45mm, T47 threaded bottom bracket, UDH derailleur hanger, and mechanical groupset compatibility. He praises its fit and finish, noting it rivals premium Western brands, and considers the $899 USD price point excellent value compared to other Chinese brands. He weighs the frame at 1,111g (size 54) and notes the fork at 455g, seatpost at 171g, and integrated cockpit at 399g. He plans to build it as an all-road setup with wide rims and tires, possibly 35c Continental GP5000 tubeless.
16:42The reviewer praises the ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame for its thoughtful design, versatility, and value. They highlight its use of quality carbon materials, internal cable routing, compatibility with various groupsets, and numerous mounting points for accessories. The custom paint option is noted as a unique feature at a competitive price. The frame is described as well-made and robust, suitable for gravel, touring, and winter riding. The reviewer plans to build it into a high-spec gravel bike for a fraction of the cost of top-tier brands.
35:30The reviewer discusses the ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame as the basis for a budget gravel bike build. He notes that the frame is made by ICAN, has been available for about a year, and is offered in seven colorways with an option for custom paint. The frame set includes frame, forks, seat post, headset, and necessary components for £717. He mentions that the frame uses a T47 bottom bracket and a UDH derailleur hanger. He praises the frame's ease of building and notes that it comes with a beautiful paint job. He plans to test the frame thoroughly in a future video.
16:38The reviewer discusses the ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame, highlighting its performance and comfort. He notes that it rides like a light, agile road bike but with larger tires, making it suitable for gravel and country lanes. He praises its comfort at speed off-road, which reduces fatigue. However, he mentions some limitations: the frame only fits up to 45mm tires, the proprietary D-shaped seat post prevents dropper post installation, and there is a tendency to wheelie on steep climbs. He also mentions that the clear coat on his custom paint job scratched easily, but suggests that stock frames might have a tougher clear coat.
12:51The reviewer discusses the ICAN Graro carbon gravel bike frame used in a custom build. The frame is part of a complete bike built for a customer, with an integrated cockpit and carbon wheels from ICAN. The reviewer estimates the total build cost at £2,500, calling it an absolute bargain for an all-carbon gravel bike with a wireless groupset.
23:38The reviewer provides a detailed unboxing and examination of the ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame. They highlight its aerodynamic tube shapes, integrated cable routing, and compatibility with both mechanical and electronic groupsets. They praise the overall build quality, the smooth internal routing, and the inclusion of a UDH hanger. However, they note some minor cosmetic imperfections and express concerns about the lack of protective film and the tire clearance limited to 45C.
A user on r/ChineseCarbon is considering purchasing an ICAN Graro carbon gravel bike frame for city and light gravel use, seeking feedback on its reliability, durability, and quality. Community responses include positive experiences with the brand's products and discussions on frame geometry and tire clearance.
AI Summary
Pros
- Positive user experiences with ICAN frames and wheels in demanding conditions like gravel races
- Considered good value for money (bang for your buck)
- Sturdy construction according to user reports
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Cons
- Frame geometry described as very aggressive/slammed with low stack relative to reach, similar to road bikes
- Limited tire clearance (max 45c) may be restrictive for some gravel riding
- Aggressive geometry may require component adjustments (e.g., shorter stem) affecting handling
Key Points
- Frame model: ICAN Graro (also referenced as Triaero Graro)
- Price: Approximately $900 including delivery for XL size (58cm)
- Intended use: City riding, sidewalks, light gravel
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A Reddit user shares their positive experience with their new Ican Graro gravel bike, highlighting its performance, specifications, and addressing community questions about the frame, components, and compatibility.
AI Summary
Pros
- Good value for money
- UCI certified frame ensuring quality
- Fast and stable ride on various terrains
more pros in the review
Cons
- Limited tire clearance (max 45mm)
- Restricted chainring size (max 42T for 1x setup)
- Integrated handlebar/stem limits customization options
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Key Points
- Frame: Ican Graro size 54 with integrated bars
- Weight: 7.9kg
- Wheels: Hunt 650b carbon wide wheels with Continental Terraspeed 40 tires
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The ICAN Graro Carbon Gravel Bike Frame is a race-oriented carbon gravel frameset with a geometry inspired by the Scott Addict Gravel. It features a T47 threaded bottom bracket (85.5mm), internal cable routing, a proprietary seatpost, and a UDH derailleur hanger. Users report a painted frame weight around 1007g (size 56) and complete builds ranging from 8.29kg to 9.27kg depending on components. The frame is available in multiple colors and can be ordered with custom options such as a fork without mounting bolts and a zero-offset seatpost. While many praise the frame's quality, ride feel, and value, common concerns include limited tire clearance (officially 45mm but some fit up to 50-51mm with tight clearance), chainring clearance issues (especially for 2x setups with larger chainrings), and inconsistent customer service experiences.
AI Summary
Pros
- Good frame quality and finish, with accurate quoted weights
- Responsive and agile ride feel, especially on gravel
- Race-inspired geometry similar to Scott Addict Gravel
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Cons
- Proprietary seatpost with limited setback options; zero-offset option became available later
- Tire clearance is tight for larger tires; official 45mm but some fit up to 50-51mm with minimal clearance
- Chainring clearance issues, especially for 2x setups with chainrings larger than 46T; requires specific chainline or spacers
more cons in the review
Key Points
- Frame material: Carbon
- Bottom bracket: T47 threaded, 85.5mm width
- Tire clearance: Official 700x45c, but users report fitting up to 50-51mm with tight clearance
more key points in the review
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